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Against Idealism video

February 11, 2014 Leave a comment Go to comments

I have only scratched the surface here so far (it’s pretty long), but I wanted to post my comments so far. I think its a good video, and well reasoned, and gives me a good opportunity to explain why Multisense Realism is different and better than run of the mill Idealism.

The attack on idealism begins (around 22:00) by assuming that the fundamental nature of consciousness is identical to human consciousness. This would be analogous to saying that metaphysical realism is false because what is meant by reality requires that everything lacks perception, awareness, memory, etc. By setting the definition of consciousness at the high limit of its elaboration, we close the door on the much more sensible possibility of a primitive, sensory-motive basis for idealism which can augment itself into both meta-sensory capacities such as thought and personality as well as meta-insensitive capacities such as evolutionary and gravitational effects.

The properties of consciousness listed on the slide can be thought of as a spectrum of individuated aesthetic protocols which diverge rather than emerge from a single aesthetic meta-protocol, (what I call Primordial Identity Pansensitivity). In the same way that white light contains the implicit presence of each spectral color, Pansensitivity presents itself more completely through its diffraction – its incompleteness is a doorway to meta-completeness. To pick a slate of human qualities of consciousness to apply to the universe is a straw man setup. All that it shows is that non-humans are not human.

It does not show, however, that nested layers of non-human consciousness are not responsible for what we perceive as matter, planets, objects, etc. It does not mean that photons are anything other than opportunities for aesthetic acquaintance – i.e. bosons may be just how sub-biological experiences see each other. Fermions may be how low level experiences touch each other. Not ‘things’, but capacities to alienate and re-acquaint which are experienced on higher levels as mechanistic/probabilistic approximations. This may not be the argument of anyone but myself, so I can’t say whether your attack on idealism succeeds in popular forms of idealism, but I do understand what you are saying so far, and see a presumption there which you appear not to have considered.

  1. Otmar
    February 15, 2014 at 7:57 pm

    >The attack on idealism begins (around 22:00) by assuming that the fundamental nature of consciousness is identical to human consciousness.

    Please don’t take this the wrong way, as it is not a criticism, but simply an observation, that you both make assumptions, and reason from those assumptions. To me, it is trial and error philosophy. It’s creative, artistic ( so for example all the interesting graphic images in your blog), fun even. Being independently-minded like you, this is the method I first applied to learning how to make artisan bread.

    On the other hand, later, I went around, early on, talking to old world bakers in Manhattan, the Bronx, Providence RI, Boston, and some others, who helped steer me in the right direction. So, for example, the temperature of the dough was critical, and needed to be between 68 – 70 F, after mixing. Eli Zabar http://www.elizabar.com told me he could tell me everything he learned about how to make bread in 3 minutes, which took him 5 years to learn, even with help from his family connections http://www.zabars.com

    • February 15, 2014 at 8:35 pm

      I respect that your journey and your methods have been effective for you, but not everyone has to have the same experience. For me, it has been the opposite kind of path – one which is about avoiding thoughts which others have already explored but instead using their ideas to go beyond. From your perspective, my method appears misguided and my conclusions appear frustratingly off-kilter. Your method seems very much the same to me from my perspective. Still though, you are the one who is compelled to return here – to pose questions and challenge not just my conclusions, but me personally with dismissive and condescending nudges. Why aren’t your conclusions bringing you peace? Why do you seek to change me by force?

  1. February 14, 2014 at 3:10 pm

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