Multisense Realism vs Materialism Continued
In the previous post Why Consciousness Defeats Materialism: Key Arguments, I used ChatGPT to clarify my position and argue for its validity. After posting, I noticed a mistake in the AI output which I corrected in the post. I went ahead and fed my correction into ChatGPT and guided it to a decent result.



I responded:
Good but here is one correction:
“MSR rejects this separation, holding that all “reality” is embedded in aesthetic-participatory experience—even if it is not all accessible to an individual at any given moment.”
The correct position of MSR is that aesthetic-participatory phenomena is the nature of existence, even superseding ‘existence’ in the sense that not only is reality an aesthetic-participatory presentation, but fantasy and fiction are as well. The difference between reality and fantasy/fiction are in the modalities and scopes of sensitivity that are used. A mirage is a perceptual fact, it’s just that in fact visibility is a different sense modality than tactile-haptic/tangibility so that they don’t always agree and one sense could have more or less relevance than another. The more sense modalities and the larger their scope, the closer the experience is to the absolute Totality, which would be true and real in an absolute/ultimate sense, however any given conscious experience is a diffracted subset of the totality (diffracted by a complex dynamism of insensitivity that filters and modifies conscious experience locally, and which localizes it in the first place. Spatial and temporal qualities of experience are derived from the insensitivities that seem to separate experience from itself, from unity to units).
So reality or “reality” is not ’embedded’ in aesthetic-participatory phenomena, rather, all that exists is aesthetic-participatory phenomena. It would make more sense to say that our experience (our includes experiences of individuality, society membership, species membership, physical membership) is partially ‘dis-embedded’ from the eternal totality of conscious experience.


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March 12, 2025 at 2:45 pmWhy Consciousness Defeats Materialism: Key Arguments | Multisense Realism
Emergent properties can only exist within conscious experience.
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Neither matter nor information can ‘seem to be’ anything. They are what they are.
It makes more sense that existence itself is an irreducibly sensory-motive phenomenon – an aesthetic presentation with scale-dependent anesthetic appearances rather than a mass-energetic structure or information processing function. Instead of consciousness (c) arising as an unexplained addition to an unconscious, non-experienced universe (u) of matter and information (mi), material and informative appearances arise as from the spatiotemporal nesting (dt) of conscious experiences that make up the universe.
Materialism: c = u(mdt) + c
Computationalism: c = u(idt) + c
Multisense Realism: u(midt) = c(c)/~!c.
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